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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
PUBLIC HEARING
SEPTEMBER 21, 1998
Present:
George "Bud" Gates
Johnnette Phillips
James Hartmann
Sara J. Fisher
Commissioner
Commissioner
County Administrator
Clerk to the Board
Absent:
James Johnson, Jr.
Chairman
This being a scheduled Public Hearing the following items were presented to the Board of County
Commissioners for their consideration:
Consent Calendar
Chairman Pro-tern Gates stated the first item on the agenda was the consent calendar as follows:
A) Approval of bill paying for week of September 21, 1998, subject to review by County
Administrator
B) Approval of payroll for September 24, 1998, subject to review by County Administrator
C) Resolution and Power of Attorney conferring authority on the Attorney's Office to draw on Letter
of Credit No, 9462686 for Cordillera Filing 14 (Summit Habitats, Inc.) for $21,984.66, Letter of Credit will expire
September 25, 1998
D) Resolution 98-112, re-establishing the rate of charge for emergency telephone service
E) Central Mountains Area Trauma Advisory Council (ATAC) biennial plan, Eagle, Lake, Park and
Summit Counties
F) Addendum to Equipment Lease Purchase Agreement number 20327 between Eagle County and
Motorola for radio equipment under consideration
G) Intergovernmental Agreement between Eagle County and Pitkin County for the 1998-1999
season of snow removal in the Frying Pan Valley
H) Contract between Eagle County and the United States Geological Survey for a joint funding
agreement for a retrospective analysis of the Eagle River Watershed
I) Resolution 98-113, final release of collateral and termination of the warranty period for Parkside
at El lebel Subdivision.
James Hartmann, County Administrator, spoke to item F indicating the Sheriff and he are still looking into
this matter,
A.J. Johnson, Eagle County Sheriff, stated he did not see a problem with the Equipment Lease.
Mr. Hartmann stated ifthe Board is agreeable to the five year term it would help the overall budget
stretching it over this five year period,
Chairman Pro-tern Gates questioned the phasing,
Mr, Hartmann spoke to the presentation of phase 3,
Sheriff Johnson stated he has requested an increase in phase 3 which would then need approval. He stated
phase 3 will go into effect this year but not be effective until 1999, He continued to explain the lease to the Board.
Commissioner Phillips stated what the Sheriff is talking about is for next year.
Commissioner Phillips questioned item D and if it continues the same rate,
Sheriff Johnson answered yes, He stated there is a pot of money currently but there are expenses coming up
in the very near future. He spoke to employees coming on line, He stated currently the rate is 55 cents but that
amount may not work in the near future. There may need to be an increase. He stated the current microwave link is
not adequate,
Bob Loeffler, Deputy County Attorney, spoke to the employees on the 911 Board and the purchase of
equipment.
Chairman Pro-tern Gates suggested a work session be held to discuss all of these issues,
Commissioner Phillips questioned item G,
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
explained the views from across the river and because of vegetation it isn't' really seen, He spoke to the other side
of highway 6 and explained it doesn't obstruct the views there.
Mr. Knight showed the outline ofthe proposed building. He spoke to the high density residential. He
showed the amphitheater for public use at the developers expense, He stated it has unfortunately become the focus
of the issues today. He suggested Edwards is becoming a community and to provide additional public facility for
use by the community is a good idea. He said they are looking for direction from the Board today as to whether it is
a good idea or not. He stated 542 seats would be the maximum. He showed the site plan, He suggested it could be
used in the winter for skating and perhaps a place for skateboarders as well. He stated the key issue is the
requirement of a full parking lot. It makes it non-workable, They are proposing to make it available with the
existing parking that will be built in conjunction with the project. He spoke to the 20% overlap. He stated with the
amphitheater it would require a greater requirement. They would like to have the right to have public uses of the
amphitheater but the required parking could make it impossible. They can accomplish the other requirements.
Should they do it or not? Concerning item #2, employee housing, they are not proposing to add additional housing
because it is covered under Brett Ranch. They will not be changing their numbers. 3A was a more technical issue,
"or more". On item B appendix 1 they believe it should be removed. It would prevent use ofthe amphitheater if it
remains. Next he spoke to a formatting issue that they will change. They disagree on the clear vision area in
accordance with the standard. They designed it to be a small town, western kind of feel. They do not have site
vision on these buildings because they built out to the street. He spoke to the one-way streets and the site distance
requirements are counter to the plan, He stated the PUD allows for design for the specific project. They agree with
#5 and the school land fees. Staff confirmed Riverwalk is up to date on its fees, #6 they have made the formatting
changes. They will work with Jean, ifthis is approved today, for them to rewrite the document.
Bill Williams, applicant, stated that he made the formatting errors. He stated he tried not to change the PUD
and the employee housing was not changed at all. He stated the big issue is the density transfer. He spoke to
satisfying the employee housing concern. Should the amphitheater be there or not? He stated they were told to
clean up the PUD. They thought in the area they haven't designed they have the right to build, but decided not to.
They determined it would be a small amphitheater. The intent is to have a small place, not a Ford Park type thing,
The attempt is to have it where they don't have to go through a major process to create it. Bathrooms, they know
they have to have them. He disagrees a special use permit is needed, He further discussed the overall project and
the height issue being minor. The overall look will remain similar, They are not going up to maximum heights.
Commissioner Phillips questioned some buildings being higher and asked ifthat is only the amphitheater.
Mr. Williams explained and showed the area on the sketch,
Chairman Pro-tem Gates asked if the height is because of the additional level of parking.
Mr. William explained.
Commissioner Phillips asked for an explanation on the exchange with Brett Ranch.
Chairman Pro-tem Gates asked Jim Fritze if they can transfer density from one place to another,
Mr. Fritze stated they are actually reducing it in one place and approving it in another.
Michael Mutter, representing the applicant, explained the approval they received for 24,000 square feet of
commercial use as a special use. The idea came from the Planning Commissioner originally, He stated to date
Brett Ranch's 156 affordable units are under construction, 143 are sold. Close to 140 are to locals. That has been a
tremendous success and people will be moving in late November. The single family home sites, ofthe 10 there are
4 to sell. He spoke to the bike path. He spoke to the undeveloped area that will be townhouses, Mr. Mutter spoke
to the open space that will be developed and maintained by them. He stated they are encouraged by the Brett Ranch
PUD and see this as being a public good for Edwards as well as the County itself. People did not want to see the
commercial. Riverwalk incorporates the 24,000 square feet into a commercial center. He spoke to the amphitheater
and one of the things that is nice is that it is pretty pedestrian friendly but to finish it off with the bike path and the
amenity along the river will be for the public good. It would draw the river into the development. This is set up as
two files but important to do the Riverwalk file first by approving its increase of density, Then they would reduce
the density on Brett Ranch and they will then dedicate it as open space.
Chairman Pro-tem Gates asked about the bike path.
Mr. Mutter explained there is one on highway 6, He stated there is one that ends at their development but
they will have the discretion to connect it when the time is appropriate,
Commissioner Phillips stated she hates to see three different bike baths and would like to see one that
connects them all.
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EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
present. She stated the sub-committee is interested in access to the back country,
Chairman Pro-tern Gates stated it seems as though they are trying to gain access across private land.
Ms. Caryl stated the goal is to get property developed through the subdivision process, an effort be made to
acquire access through the development. She stated it is already in the regulations but at the end of sentence
number one, She stated in the PUD and Subdivision sections there is a long list of items to be reviewed. This
access could be one of those. She stated currently the trails must be maintained and the committee is suggesting
create new trails should be added.
Mr. Fritze stated the section currently fits the law, He stated the new second sentence is not discrepancy.
Ms, Caryl stated the subcommittee would welcome any input to meet the requirement.
Chairman Pro-tern Gates stated the developer should have the option and not be forced to install a trail.
Mr. Fritze stated it is really not a standard. From a legal standpoint the language in the existing section is
better.
Bob Warner, developer, stated he agrees with the trails aspect and with deeding those to the County.
Ms. Caryl stated it is not the intent to pave the trails.
Ron Brave stated this may cause some back lash. He stated it does not make any sense to pull in private
land owners, He stated it would give incentive to cut off any access currently provided by private landowners,
Commissioner Phillips stated it is important to have access if there is a large piece of property next to public
lands. The Board must not demand developers to have access to public lands. The Board should just continue to
ask the developers to provide a trail when they are next to public lands.
Mr. Montag stated the Board should have a draft of articles ready to be approved by the Board, He stated
the Eagle County Planning Commission suggested some additional changes, changing the word should to shall and
in paragraph 2 changing the word shall to should,
Paragraph 4, changing from compliance to the BOCC shall consider recommendations. The geologic hazard
paragraph, the Eagle County Planning Commission is recommending changing the wording to make this paragraph
a red flag. The County would send a referral. Mr. Montag explained how this paragraph will be worded,
Page 4-75, environmental impact section, modify this section clarifying development proposal, insert that
may substantially alter or effect in an adverse manner, the environment.
Mr, Brave stated he agrees with what is trying to be done, but he challenged staff to find something that
does not substantially alter the environment. He suggested looking at each of the fifteen items and decide what is
trying to be accomplished.
Tom Boni suggested having worked with the regulations, when indicating which areas would effect the
environmental impacts, He stated the developer should be required to mitigate those specific concerns. He stated
currently staff checks off those items which are of concern.
Bob Warner stated it would be helpful if the County tried to get a threshold on the assessments.
Chairman Pro-tern Gates stated if it is deemed necessary.
Mr, Warner stated ifthere are 50 acres up in Burns maybe it does require it and in Wolcott maybe not.
Mr. Montag stated this section will be tough and with the guidance of the Attorneys Office they will
succeed,
4-83, the Eagle County Planning Commission, 4-610, A2, suggested adding esthetic concerns.
Commissioner Phillips stated she believes esthetic concerns are already in the regulations.
Chairman Pro-tern Gates concurred.
4-88, 9A, Roaring Fork Planning Commission suggests 20 units on a cul-de-sac be reinstated and remove
the sentence following.
Mr, Warner stated he does not have statistics but 50% to 80% of the roads are cul-de-sacs. He stated he
prefers the language as is.
Mr. Brave stated in the first sentence shall should read should.
The Board concurred.
4-130, school land dedication fees, the Roaring Fork Planning Commission recommended in paragraph C,
changing the word unimproved to improved.
Mr. Loeffler stated he believes this section is a copy ofthe statute, It is not possible to change that.
Mr. Brave agreed changing would be a nightmare, He stepped back to the cul-de-sacs, page 88, 9A, in such
instances, adding the word if. He believes the statement every 1000 feet is excessive,
George Roussos, County Engineer, stated this was a compromise sentence and he suggested only having
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EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
Commissioner Phillips suggested there needs to be something in front of that.
Mr. Loeffler stated that is the title, He suggested that may look like new language but is a product of the
insensitivity ofthe computer. He suggested it is the same as it was before.
Commissioner Gates asked what else they need.
Mr. Montag stated the intent will be to bring back additional draft 4's. Article 2 is the definitions on which
they spent a fair amount of time. He suggested they can bring Article 2 back.
Commissioner Phillips asked for questions on Draft 4 - Article 1 from the public.
Mr. Fritze stated the Board can approve it as to it being brought back as part of the draft resolution, The
Board gave direction that it is complete.
Mr. Montag asked if they can table for two weeks and hopefully give a package that contains Articles 2 and
3 and perhaps even more. He suggested they go two weeks. Mr. Montag stated the more time they have the more
articles they can have in their package.
Mr. Brave stated he won't be here on October 5 and that is why he would like it the 12,
Mr. Montag stated the 12th is a holiday and suggested the 5th will be the best at 3:00.
Commissioner Gates asked to continue LUR-0028 to Monday, October 5, 1998 at 3:00.
There being no further business to be brought before the Board the meeting was adjourned until September
28, 1998.
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