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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
PUBLIC HEARING
SEPTEMBER 8, 1998
Present:
James Johnson, Jr,
George "Bud" Gates
Johnnette Phillips
James Hartmann
Sara J. Fisher
Chairman
Commissioner
Commissioner
County Administrator
Clerk to the Board
This being a scheduled Public Hearing the following items were presented to the Board of County
Commissioners for their consideration;
Resolution 98-105, Ballot Question, Property Tax Increase
Jim Fritze, County Attorney, presented Resolution 98-105, providing for the submission to the registered
qualified electors of Eagle County, a question to authorize a property tax increase of .75 mills, said question to be
submitted at the election to be held November 3, 1998, prescribing the form of ballot question for submission at
said election; providing for certification ofthe election question to the County Clerk & Recorder. He recommended
the Board approve the resolution.
Mr. Fritze reminded the Board this had been tabled from last week. This includes the modification
discussed including the language regarding taxes within the RElJ School District. He explained he has provided
one version with a sunset provision and one without. He prepared the resolutions as requested by the Chairman and
described under item 2 in the Board's back up.
Commissioner Gates asked Tom Steinberg down to the mic.
Tom Steinberg representing a self appointed committee on open space, stated Dave Cole and Peter Feisman
are out of the state, He stated he has talked to the other two and in general their opinion as proposed does not
include the ability for them to bond. At the present time the best thing to do is to not put this before the voters. He
suggested they could talk further about this.
Commissioner Philips spoke to the clerks attending a CCI meeting last week and the possibility of putting a
fee collected via credit card that could be put toward the open space. She suggested there may be other
alternatives,
Dr. Steinberg suggested if they are anticipating something for next year he would like to get going early on.
He reminded the Board he is here today to represent himself and the two others, not the Land Trust. Dr, Steinberg
suggested as Land Trust they are committed to being non-political. He thinks a sales tax is much more equitable
than a property tax, The rancher is then minimally impacted, but they also think the tourist can help to pay for the
open space.
Commissioner Phillips suggested it would not be money that would come into the general fund.
Commissioner Gates recommended a work session to see what may happen in the future.
Commissioner Phillips suggested they look at the mill levy and the portion available through the new
construction funds collected.
Jim Fritze suggested both measures provide the monies could be used for financing open space but not the
bond issue requirements. In regard to item #2 on the agenda, sales tax can be committed to open space without any
ballot measure. The vote would lock it to that source, Money could be borrowed as a general obligation debt.
There is nothing in the statute preventing those from being used as an authorized expenditure.
Chris Sasse, Finance Department, was asked by Chairman Johnson what they've reduced the mill levy
annually.
Chairman Johnson asked if the committee would like them to not put anything on the ballot.
Dr. Steinberg suggested he thinks they could get it passed this session as a question. He suggested they
appropriate for one year without a vote of the people and then try to take it to the electorate.
Commissioner Phillips stated she prefers not to take monies out of the budget at this time,
Chairman Johnson stated he requested this alternative be provided today, He reflected they had not wanted
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
B) Approval of payroll for September 10, 1998, subject to review by County Administrator
C) Change Order No, 3 to the contract between Eagle County and Elam Construction Inc. To
decrease the 1998 Paving Contract by $8,308.00
D) Amendment Number One to the Lease Agreement between Eagle County and Blue Lake Owners
Association to lease space at 0189 J.W, Drive to house the Clerk and Courtroom for the Eagle County Court and for
public meetings of the Eagle County Planning Commission
E) Memorandum of Understanding between Eagle County and Aspen Community Theater to use
Tree Farm property for storage of theater sets
F) Agreement between Eagle County and Gerard Brothers Ranch for cutting and purchase of hay at
the Eagle County Regional Airport,
Commissioner Gates moved to approve the consent calendar as presented,
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous.
Plat & Resolution Signing
Eric McCafferty, Planner, presented the following plat for the Board's consideration:
AFP-00049. Lot 10. Cordillera Subdivision. Filinl: No. 26. He stated this was an Amended Final
Plat to administratively amend the previously platted building envelope. This administrative process is pursuant to
provisions stated in the Cordillera PUD, and allows the Community Development Department to submit the plat for
Board signature upon receipt of consent of all landowners adjacent to, and within 75 of, the property.
Commissioner Phillips moved to approve final plat file number AFP-00049, Lot 10, Cordillera Subdivision,
Filing No. 26, incorporating Staff findings, The Chairman shall be authorized to sign the plat,
Commissioner Gates seconded the motion. The vote was declared unanimous,
Building Permit, Eagle-Vail Cafe/Conoco
Scot Hunn, Planner, presented a building permit application #11795 from Eagle-Vail Cafe/Conoco to reset
the appeal hearing date.
Renate Lilischikies, applicant, stated they installed new gas pump which are card readers, She stated those
are freezing and will not allow the cards to be read.
Bob Loeffler, Deputy County Attorney, stated the Board is not hearing this matter today but just
establishing a date,
Ms, Lilischikies stated Monday of next week would be fine,
Commissioner Gates moved to set the date of the appeal hearing to September 14, 1998.
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous.
Commissioner Gates moved to reconsider the motion.
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous.
Commissioner Gates moved to reset the appeal to 2:00 p.m, this afternoon,
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous.
PDF-00019, Final Plat, Cordillera, Filings 3 & 31, Northern Parcel
Terri Bernath, Planner, presented file number PDF-00019, Final Plat, Cordillera, Filing 31, the Northern
Parcel. She explained the changes in this plat to the Board, saying the plat changes the permitted location for the
golf course maintenance facility, modifies the boundaries of Planning Parcels B, C, and D to allow for two
additional homes sites, and incorporates Tact E into Planning Parcel B as open space pursuant to the Cordillera
Planned Unit Development guide. Staff recommended approval.
Commissioner Gates moved to approve file number PDF-00019, Final Plat, Cordillera, Filings 3 & 31,
Northern Parcel.
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion. The vote was declared unanimous.
Commissioner Phillips moved to approve the SIA for file number PDF-00019,
Commissioner Gates seconded the motion. The vote was declared unanimous.
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EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
card readers and without a canopy they do not work properly and cannot be used.
Commissioner Phillips stated those reasons could qualify as a hardship,
Ms. Lilischikies stated the proposed land trade is still out a couple of months.
Chairman Johnson stated the applicant must own the land before they can go through the exemption process.
Mr. Fritze reminded the Board of the criteria for reversing the staffs decision. He stated the applicant would
have to show compliance with the Land Use Regulations or that the building official had mis-interpreted the
regulations.
Commissioner Gates stated although he is very sympathetic, it looks as though this application would have
to go through the variance board/committee.
Chairman Johnson stated under County regulations the Board cannot approve the appeal. He stated he
believes the applicant can start the variance proceedings today and as soon as the land is acquired the applicant can
see about obtaining a variance and install the canopy if approved,
Commissioner Phillips stated the letter from the State Land Board indicated the land acquisition is intimate.
Mr, Fritze stated if the parcels next to hers had been deeded over yet.
Ms. Lilischikies answered no.
Chairman Johnson questioned ifthe applicant had enough room to go back 50 feet and only the variance
process would be appropriate.
Mr, Fritze asked about the building permit fee,
Mr. Clarkson suggested if the applicant requested a refund the building official would have to consider that
request.
Mr. Fritze stated the applicant may not have to pay an additional fee for the variance.
Commissioner Gates moved the Board deny action on the appeal as recommended by staff and instruct staff
and the applicant to proceed through the variance process.
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion. The vote was declared unanimous.
LUR-0028, Land Use Regulations
Keith Montag, Director of Community Development, stated the next item on the agenda was continuation of
the Land Use Regulations hearing,
Jim Fritze, County Attorney, suggested at the last meeting there was a question regarding adult
entertainment. Renee Black has drafted proposed regulation for adult entertainment. He referred to two recent
Supreme Court cases one being in Colorado. Ms. Black has drafted her regulations accordingly and can provide
them to Mr, Montag.
Keith Montag reopened the discussions referring to page 3-59. They spoke to the drive-in facilities.
On page 3-60 and the operating hours,
Chairman Johnson asked after residential.
Commissioner Phillips suggested it was commercially owned,
Chairman Johnson asked if they are discriminating against drive-through businesses as opposed to a 7-11.
Commissioner Phillips suggested drive in would produce less traffic.
Mr. Fritze asked if it were a bank and someone was wanting to get money from an A TM would that be a
drive in.
Mr. Montag suggested that would fall in this category as well, He suggested all drive through facilities need
to have a special permit. The hours can be conditioned by special use,
Chairman Johnson suggested striking the operating hours. He suggested they use the drive through facility
to denote the definition.
Mr, Brave suggested they give a definition,
Mr. Montag suggested they will make the terminology consistent.
On page 3-61, Chairman Johnson spoke "through lots". He asked ifit should read duplex or unit and
explained a driveway dumping on to two streets.
Mr, Montag concurred.
Tom Boni, Knight Planning, suggested "use" be used.
The Board agreed.
On page 3-62 and the comer units.
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
Mr. Montag stated they are in a PUD.
Chairman Johnson asked if it would be better to offer straight zoning. He suggested if they are looking at
ways to develop more affordable housing, it may make sense.
Mr, Montag suggested it can probably be done but you look at the Zero Lot line on a case by case basis. Lot
lines, adjacent facility, etc. will make the difference. He doesn't know what the criteria would be. He suggested
you would have to have such a list and flexibility, the PUD is where you can write the zoning around what you are
doing. The purpose of the PUD is to supply the flexibility. He stated there are some counties that require all new
development to be PUD,
Mr, Montag stated he is still not sure of the outcome, is it limited to residential.
Chairman Johnson suggested they want to see some sort of limitation and what the fencing is for. He
suggested for industrial they may want to keep it natural screening where in some other areas they may want open
fence for the visual.
On page 3-64 Chairman Johnson asked if they don't want or don't need a maximum floor area, limiting the
size of structure can be built.
Mr. Brave suggested they had deleted some being RL and R. He spoke to the footnotes RL, 8, 10, and 11
and on R 8, 10, and 12,
Mr. Clarkson suggested they were to take a closer look at those. He suggested in #8 ifthey have a 20 acre
RL zoned lot, and the net developable being 12 acres, it is not illegal.
Tom Boni suggested at the resource level you don't want to prohibit subdividing having sloping. He
suggested in RMF you mayor not have a concern with greater than 30%. RSL is 1 unit per 15,000. RSM is
considered appropriate in a community center. He suggested the net developable definition gives no value in terms
of density is not appropriate. In-fill development is encouraged and frequently the land may slope more than that
surrounding it. He suggested it shouldn't be defined developable land as land that slopes less than 30%, He
suggested the current regulations have a method of dealing with this. He does not like the revised version.
Commissioner Phillips reviewed the previous discussion and her notes on what was included or not.
Mr. Clarkson clarified that a few weeks ago they discussed this and the definition, He recalled they did fall
back on the current definition which did not remove slope from developable land, but did exclude wet lands. Mr.
Brave referred to his notes and that follow up was needed, The direction was not given to delete it but to follow up,
Chairman Johnson suggested they keep what they have in the current land use regulations and the formula.
He asked if it makes sense to put those back in. It would keep people from loosing some of what they think is
developable right now.
Mr. Montag stated they are going back to the current definition which doesn't include slope but addresses
floodplain, He asked if they are going to insert existing restrictions into what they are doing now,
Chairman Johnson asked about footnote #2.
Mr, Montag said it is stating they would not restrict the minimum use of a lot. He stated the use can not be
restricted by lot coverage or floor area. At a minimum you could have a 1,500 square foot single family dwelling.
It is coming forward from a current land use regulation.
Chairman Johnson asked if footnote #2 can be written more clearly,
Mr. Boni spoke to page 3-60, garden supply and plant material storage, He spoke to a nursery that he is
currently working with and questioned does that include the places with bushes and trees in addition to small plants.
He asked if this includes the large landscaping operations that exists,
Chairman Johnson questioned them not having the ceramic pots out there.
Mr. Boni spoke to the screening requirements because the stuffthey sell is screening. He would hate to
have a fence to buffer the buffer materials. He spoke to the nursery in El Jebel and trying to keep it there as
screenmg,
Mr. Montag stated they would concur and allow for the plant materials to be part of the screening.
Commissioner Phillips asked about security.
Mr. Montag stated they can clarify that.
Chairman Johnson asked if there is more in Article 3 that needs to be discussed,
Susan Nottingham spoke to the Planning Commission wanting to change footnote #3.
Chairman Johnson suggested they had not committed.
Commissioner Phillips recalls it as being left at 50 feet.
Chairman Johnson suggested much of Article IV pertains to George Roussos,
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EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKE!:S 387869
Mr. Fritze suggested the definition comes from liquor code,
Commissioner Phillips questioned the limiting of the hours to 1:00 a.m, when the liquor code allows for
them to stay open until 2:00.
Mr. Fritze stated the key part is the definition and this is just a draft.
They agreed to table the meeting to Tuesday, September 15, They agreed to get the initial direction done
and then they can continue reviewing the revisions. They agreed on 2:00 p,m..
Commissioner Gates moved to table to Tuesday, September 15 at 2:00 p.m.
Commissioner Phillips seconded. The vote was declared unanimous.
There being no further business to be brought before the Board this meeting was adjourned until September
14, 1998,
Atte&: _rL Q k/'h
Clerk to the Bo d
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