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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 05/18/98 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS EAGLE, COLORADO RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869 PUBLIC HEARING MAY 18, 1998 Present: James Johnson, Jr. George "Bud" Gates Johnnette Phillips James Hartmann Sara J. Fisher Chairman Commissioner Commissioner County Administrator Clerk to the Board This being a scheduled Public hearing the following items were presented to the Board of County Commissioners for their consideration: Consent Calendar Chairman Johnson stated the first item on the agenda was the consent calendar as follows: A) Approval of bill paying for week of may 18, 1998, subject to review by County Administrator B) Approval of payroll for May 21, 1998, subject to review by County Administrator C) Approval of the minutes of Board of County Commissioner meeting for May 4, 1998 D) Agreement between Eagle County and Way Western L.L.C. E) M.A.P,M,P. Agreement with Office Tecknowledgy F)Maintenance Agreement between u.s. West Communication and Eagle County for service for E- 911 Board G) Assignment of Certificate of Deposit No, 100001136 in the amount of$I,750,OO for Western Slope Road Cut Permit No. 2485 H) Fourth Intergovernmental Agreement between Eagle County and Town of Red Cliff for building inspection services I) Resolution 98-67, providing for the submission to the registered qualified electors of Eagle County, Colorado, of a question which would eliminate term limitations for the Elected Officials J) Resolution and Power of Attorney, conferring authority on Attorneys Office to draw on Letter of Credit No, 957-2127 for Jerry Sibley Plumbing for Road Cut Permit #2776 for $2,000,00, issued by FirstBank of Vail, LOC will expire May 22, 1998 K) Addendum to Land Lease between Eagle County and F.B. Crawford & Co, Land Lease dated January 15, 1997 L) Joint Resolution 98-68, of the City Council of the City of Aspen, Board of County Commissioners of the County of Pitkin and Board of County Commissioners of the County of Eagle, agreeing to the appointment of a Director of the Roaring Fork Transit Agency M) Approval of Amendment to Agreement for construction with R.A. Nelson & Associates for A.D.A. upgrades to Eagle County Building and Senior Center N) Approval of contract for design of new grandstand at Fairgrounds 0) Contract for purchase of Xerox Copier. Jim Fritze stated item J with regard to the collateral should be pulled. Commissioner Gates moved to approve the consent calendar excluding item J. Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous, Plat & Resolution Signing Scot Hunn, Planner, introduced Terry Bernath who presented the following plats and resolutions for the Board's consideration: 5MB-00116, Aspenwood Lodee Condominium Map. 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'd~W um!U!WOPUO;) ;}8p01 pOOMu;}dsy '91100-S:WS l;}qumU;}IY l~Id I~ug: :}AOldd~ Ol P;)AOW sdm!lld l;)UO!SS!WWO;) BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS EAGLE, COLORADO RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869 complaints or disturbances during the past year, Staff recommended approval. Tamara Underwood introduced Ken Willis, the registered manager, Chairman Johnson spoke to speculation about Piney River not being in business this year, Mr. Willis clarified they have renewed their five year special use permit with the Forest Service, Last year they had cut back their operation to gage future use, Commissioner Phillips moved to approve the renewal of a hotel and restaurant license with optional premises for Piney River Ranch, Inc, Commissioner Gates seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous. Chairman Johnson applauded Tamara and staff on their work on the optional premise licenses, Ranch at Berry Creek Earlene Roach presented the renewal of an optional premise license for Equestrians, Inc., dba/Ranch at Berry Creek. She stated this application was in order and all fees have been paid, The Sheriff s Office reports no complaints or disturbances during the past year. Staff recommended approval. Gayle Crider, applicant, was present for the hearing, Chairman Johnson spoke to the addition of Cowboy Poker. Ms, Crider explained, Commissioner Gates moved to approve the renewal of an optional premise license for Equestrian's, Inc" dba/Ranch at Berry Creek. Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion. The vote was declared unanimous, Mulligan's Earlene Roach presented a renewal of a hotel and restaurant license with optional premises for Eagle-Vail Metropolitan District, dba/Mulligan's. She stated this application is in order and all fees have been paid, The Sheriff's Office reports no complaints or disturbances during the past year. Staff recommended approval. Tom McNeil, manager, was present for the hearing, Commissioner Phillips moved to approve the renewal of a hotel and restaurant license with optional premises for Eagle-Vail Metropolitan District, dba/Mulligan's. Commissioner Gates seconded the motion. The vote was declared unanimous, Cordillera Golf Club Earlene Roach presented a modification of premises for GEMSA Corporation, dba/Cordillera Golf Club, The applicant proposes to expand the current golf course to include an area approximately 1/4 mile southeast ofthe current optional premises, The applicant will offer beer, wine and alcohol service in conjunction with a catered barbeque after guests return from horseback trail rides. The area will be clearly marked by signage and ropes to provide a distinct boundary, The applicant will have a tent where food will be prepared, picnic tables and a portable bar where the attendant will be serving beer and wine. The proposed expansion will be fully staffed during the food and alcohol service, The Sheriff's Office reports no complaints or disturbances during the past year, This application is in order and all fees have been paid. Staff recommended approval. Chairman Johnson asked about the premises, Ron Hardy, manager of the Timber House Grill, stated it will be under his supervision. Chairman Johnson asked about control of the premises, Mr. Hardy stated they will have supervision whenever there are horse rides, Chairman Johnson asked about the boundary control. Rick Rosen, attorney for Cordillera, explained the boundaries with them either being natural or posted with SIgns, He stated there should be no problems, Commissioner Gates moved to approve the modification of premises for GEMSA Corporation, dba/Cordillera Golf Club, Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous, 3 '17 ;}l{l JO lUOlJ ;}l{l SSOl~~ lU:}W;}S~:} un S~ IpM S~ ){I~M;)P!S JO uO!l!PP~ ;}l{llno P;)lU!od;}H '8u!pI!nq;}l{l JO ;}:)~J lS;}M ;)l{ll{l!M I~:}P II!M A;}l{l MOl{ pun ~l;}l{ AIlU;}lID:) lOU S! l~l{l p~Ol ;)l{l Ol :}){ods;}H 'UO!SS!WWO;) 8u!UUUld ){lOd 8u!mol1 ;}l{l Aq ;)P~W suo!l~:)Y!pow :}l{l pun unld :}d~:)sPunI ;)l{l P;)MOl{S U;)l{l;)H ':}Ido:}d X!S Plol{ II!M WOOl ){Ullq ;)l{.r 'WOOl ){Ullq pun ;)8~1OlS ;)l{l '8u!PEnq ;)l{lJO SPA;)I lU;)l~JJ!P ~l{l p~MOl{S p8!Z 'lW 'IpM S~ s:}sodmd l;)lJlO 10J p:}sn:}q un:) WOOl 8U!U!~ll ~l{l8u!ls;)88ns 8u!pI!nq ;)l{lJO UO!l~In::>l!:) ;)l{l P;)U!~Idx~ 1;)l{lID] p8!Z 'lW 'lU;)wdOPA;}P 8u!snol{ ~ l{l!M l:}pmoq II!M l{:)!l{M ){~~q ;)l{l u! ~snoq ;)l{l Ol ~){ods ~H 'l! 1lU!pUnOlIDS 8u!wo~ ~q II!M l~l{llU~wdopA:}P ~l{l pun UO!l~lS :}l{lJO :}u!Ilno ;}l{l P;)U!~Idx:} l:}l{lltlJ:}H 'A~M :}~unllU;) ;)l{l pun 8u!Punq ;}l{lJO UO!l~~OI :}l{l Aq u!~8 mlos ;}l{l Ol :}){ods ~H 'UO!l~lS ;)l{lJO lnOA~I ;)l{l pue Al!H:)~J :}l{l P;)U!~Idx;) 'SP:}l!l{:)lV ;)n8~;).r AlmH 'P1l!Z p~lg: ':}l!S :}l{llOJ I~:}P! 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Mr. Zigel showed the ambulance which are 76 to 80% ofthe calls will come out the east side and go either direction on JW Drive, The fire trucks will do the same, Mr. Zigel again showed the back lot with 12 spaces, There are 9 on the west side and 22 or more at the training site. Mr, Knight spoke to the additional green space and the new parking lot. Steve Howard, Fire Chief of Basalt, stated this station is the last piece of a five year plan, He stated the design takes into consideration growth of the next twenty five years, He stated this is a design transition station, He stated it is a volunteer station that will handle the large numbers of volunteers, Over the next ten years they will see a change over to on duty crew. He stated they have to staff to accommodate residential and commercial. He spoke to the size and the emergency flow, He explained the left facing apron will be for non emergency vehicles, He spoke to street lighting and the fact they will study it as time goes along. This is a sizable project for Mid- Valley, but the growth is coming regardless, He spoke to the residential component and the need for employee housing, Commissioner Phillips asked if they will keep the facility in Basalt. Mr. Howard stated Basalt will remain the headquarters for now and in four or five years this may become the primary location, Mr, Zigel spoke to the site plan again and the space designated as detached housing for the future, Mr. Knight summarized the proposal incorporating the recommendations by the Roaring Fork Planning Commission, Scot Hunn concluded saying the major issues and concerns have been addressed, Staffs recommended approval with three conditions, Mr, Knight did explain the third condition and believes the east/west parking is the most usable. He suggested they would not like to collateralize the landscaping but understand the policy. John Venegrin, Engineering Department, spoke to condition # 1 and the traffic signal. He stated they still recommend something be there such as a warning sign that could have lights activated, Engineerings position is that some sort of traffic control be there on JW Drive. He stated they have concluded a warning signal is necessary, Chairman Johnson stated if they have made the determination then signalization will be required, Commissioner Phillips suggested it be an emergency sign. Mr. Howard spoke to the lights in Snowmass Village and the requirement in Pitkin County. He stated they quit using them as they caused such great concern. He asked them to consider other alternatives. He stated the ones they have are solar powered, He stated when they leave the station, they must come to a complete stop, He doesn't see a problem with the visibility being such that it is, He feels additional lighting will be over doing it at this point. Jim Fritze stated the volunteers coming into the site are usually a greater problem than the trucks going out. Mr. Howard suggested they start with a sign and then if warning lights are warranted they would be installed, Chairman Johnson asked if you wait until you have a certain number of accidents to determine they are warranted, Mr, Howard spoke to the current location in Basalt and the fact they share access with an elementary school. It is a public issue and a safety issue. 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He suggested because so many Eagle County residents will be there it should be a benefit. Commissioner Phillips asked to speak to the bike path, Mr, Mutter showed the two paths, One will go all along the side of the highway connecting the mobile home park neighborhoods with the retail area and Edwards Elementary, the south side of the road, They are building that. The second path will come along the south side of Eagle Crest Drive and the extension to the new culdesac on the end, The bike path was never really talked about, The assumption they made was an easement as there are problems with the railroad right-of-way. It is a cattle pasture at this time. Commissioner Phillips suggested there has been discussion with Lake Creek Village and the bike paths all connecting, Mr, Mutter stated the Highway 6 will be built and the one in area A. It stops at the end of the culdesac, The question is, is it necessary at this time to build a bike path to nowhere, They have done the easement. Commissioner Gates asked if it is enough to build a road in the future, Mr, Mutter stated for a road and a bike path with the easement to Eagle County, Chairman Johnson stated they didn't want to eliminate the bike path future, Mr, Mutter stated they will build it to the culdesac. Chairman Johnson stated they don't want the bike path to terminate in the middle of nowhere, He stated they have required the developer to build to the end of their property and the future developers picking it up from there, Commissioner Phillips stated they will just be adding to the cost of affordable housing, She would just as soon it end at the end of the subdivision and when built out they can add it in. Chairman Johnson questioned if it will be more fair to put the cost on the developer, Jeff Spanel, Evergreen Homes, stated the original design shows it ending at the culdesac, Commissioner Gates asked if they would rather incur the expense now or agree to build it at a later date, Jean Garren spoke to the railroad abandonment and the collateralization concerns, Chairman Johnson suggested that doesn't mean the tracks will come up. Mr. Mutter stated part ofthe issue is putting a trail to nowhere, He would rather make an equal payment to the trails fund and be done with it and then it can be determined where to put the trail at the time, Chairman Johnson stated he is not sure how to earmark the monies for that project or to adjacent lands, Bob Loeffler, Deputy County Attorney, stated they should be able to figure out a way to make that happen, Mr. Mutter stated he would rather have an agreement so that they have fulfilled their obligation and allow the bike path coordinator to manage the money accordingly. Ms. Garren spoke to the condition in the package that refers to collateralizing that section of the trail. The amount of money determined would be approximately $16,000. Chairman Johnson suggested an estimate of cost could be given, Mr. Mutter stated they have one from John Althoff stating from the culdesac to the end ofthe property it would be $16,055,53. He stated they have not taken bids but believes it would be more around $10,000 but are willing to pay the amount needed to keep the project moving. Commissioner Phillips asked about returning the money. Mr. Mutter stated they would rather the money be used to complete the trail regardless of where it will be located. Mr. Loeffler questioned the three year time period and the railroad abandonment. Chairman Johnson stated they don't want it to hinge on the abandonment. Either they will build a path from the culdesac to the eastern boundary or they will put it toward the abandonment path, Commissioner Gates asked ifthere is agreement on the fees. $15,000 was agreed on and will be a non- collateralized item. Mr. Mutter stated they would like time to make the payment and don't want the project stopped for receipt. They agreed they will make the payment by the first building permit. 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Chris Jouflas, Wolcott resident,\itated economics didn't come into this, It has taken care of the people that have no stake in anything, If you are into affordable housing you've got to recognize economics come into this, The fairness piece of this puzzle, driving down I-70 to Dotsero, there isn't too much land to upzone, Eagle and Gypsum will almost merge, Red Canyon is the only thing that stops Wolcott, To him it is a strange situation when you have Lindholms deal and Adams Rib, That is what caused this stuff and they will be penalized, Greg Jouflas, George's son and Chris' nephew, stated he is a third generation in the Valley. He said he is against the moratorium and from his standpoint and his families, the moratorium as proposed is a bad idea, At the public forum at Avon the last question asked was asked by B&B and referred to the moratorium in Burkley, Land values skyrocketed, rents skyrocketed, If the goal is to find a solution to the housing shortage the moratorium is the last thing to consider. All these studies have not been consulted or accessed. They had not been considered, The idea of the moratorium came first and then the reasons to justify it. The goals didn't generate the idea of the moratorium, It is the tail wagging the dog. There will be much greater impacts that are negative and unforseen, The moratorium will effectively take this body out of the land use approval process for a period of time and throw all the land use decisions into towns. He stated he sees the worst development in the incorporated areas not in unincorporated Eagle County. The Planning Commission does not see a need for this as reflected in their 6 to 1 vote, He stated another problem is ill defined goals. How will you know when the goals are met. The goals should point in the direction of the moratorium not the other way around, It leaves out fairness, It will have an adverse impact on those who have projects in the pipeline and on the landowners, There are only a few of them left, They are the remnants of historical Eagle County. Those landowners should not be left out. Is it right and is it fair to all within the community. This was all one time ranch land, They don't have the opportunity to come in and ask for a higher use. Those who have spoken in favor of the moratorium is the Towns, who are not willing to join in, The major projects will start taking annexation. The County will be out of the land use approval. It is empire building, He doesn't think the Towns do a better job. The individuals that speak in favor of the moratorium, it is not the moratorium, it is about a no growth agenda that is being promoted. That is what this is about and that isn't right. It's the scene in Titanic, they are rowing away in the boats, He grew up here...it is very different now, He doesn't like some of the changes but never felt he had the right to tell people they shouldn't move here, The right they have is to take advantage of the property values increase, If people are willing to put their money where there mouth is lets buy the land and keep it as green space. He stated they have been good stewards of their land and resents the implication they can't plan accordingly and develop something they can be proud of. He urged the Board to vote against the moratorium as it is bad for the County and unfair to the land owners. The proper step to take is to do their job as they have. George Jouflas, Wolcott resident, stated he thinks the moratorium is taking away property rights and does not fit. The land owners take care of the wildlife. He stated sometimes the land he owns owns them, This puts them backwards, Commissioner Gates stated in this process there has not been any clear sense of direction from the attorney's office or from others who have tried a moratorium. He said the mini-moratorium is not enough, but he is against a total moratorium. So they asked it be directed in land use regs, The master plan needs to be updated, The master plan should change to reflect what is happening. They have 82% open space and they are asking the developer to provide 20 % more, The County tried to get tax dollars defined to buy open space and that was turned down, If they take the total land in Eagle County that is developable, what do they come up with, He wonders ifhe is getting any sense of direction or making his own subjective call. He's been criticized that he doesn't stand up against developers, He spoke to Homestake II. Commissioner Phillips spoke to the needed road improvements in Edwards and the need for $18 million, She stated that is not a lot of money if for a twenty year plan, They don't have a statute that allows for a moratorium, the two counties in Colorado that have tried it, it hasn't worked, They will likely face a lawsuit by imposing something they are unable to do legally. If the suggestion was to stop certain projects or to wait until someone is elected, she will not be a part of that. 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