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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
PUBLIC HEARING
APRIL 20, 1998
Present:
James E, Johnson, Jr.
George "Bud" Gates
Johnnette Phillips
James Hartmann
Sara J, Fisher
Chairman
Commissioner
Commissioner
County Administrator
Clerk to the Board
This being a scheduled Public Hearing the following items were presented to the Board of County
Commissioners for their consideration:
ZS-236-86, Category III, Vail Ski Area
Keith Montag, Director of Community Development, presented file number ZS-236-86, Category III, Vail
Ski Area expansion hearing, The file was continued from March 10th and March 19th, 1998, The time frame for
public written comment was extended until March 31, 1998 and referral agencies were given until April 10, 1998 to
respond to questions and comments, All letters and correspondence that have been submitted subsequent to March
19th and have met the aforementioned time limits are in the Board's back-up materials, The following staff
recommendation has not changed from it's original presentation on March 10, 1998, Receipt ofletters from the
referral agencies was extended to April 10, 1998. He referred to Staffs recommendation
Jim Fritze, County Attorney, stated since the last hearing in this room there was a site visit, Minutes were
kept and all sides represented, He stated there was discussion at the last hearing about an airplane viewing,
Logistics did not work out. Then there was a suggestion of video taping, but that did not come together as well.
Chairman Johnson asked Mr. Fritze to explain where the Board is in the process and the legal responsibility
the Board has,
Mr, Fritze stated this is a special use permit application which was approved by a prior Board of County
Commissioners years ago, Based on that resolution, the applicant is here for the Board to hear the issue, He spoke
to Supreme Court rulings, This is a land use approved by the Government for use on Federal Land, He spoke to
the Federal Authorities and their supremacies as to a land use decision, Whether this can be used as a ski area or
not has already been made. The County Government has no legal authority to overrule that decision, The courts
have said whatever environmental issues the Board may have still apply, We are here today to see ifthere are
further conditions the Board feels are necessary to apply based on the environmental impacts and based on the
regulations, The "how" is still and issue the Board can review,
Chairman Johnson spoke to the 10: 15 agenda item scheduled,
Commissioner Gates asked about the letter being waited on from the Division of Wildlife,
Mr. Montag stated there was a letter faxed over the weekend from the DOW, The Board received a copy of
the response this morning,
Chairman Johnson stated he is disappointed in the Grand Junction office for not being here or addressing the
issues that were posed to them as well,
Jim Mandel, Attorney for Vail Associates, stated the directions of this Board were clear, The applicant was
given to April 10 to respond, He stated the letters that were not in the package were disregarded.
Chairman Johnson asked this be tabled for five minutes,
Final Settlement, Hyder Construction
Jim Fritze, County Attorney, presented final settlement for Hyder Construction, Inc" for construction of the
Eagle County Animal Control Center. He stated this matter was published and no claims have been received, Staff
recommended approval.
Commissioner Gates moved to approve final settlement for Hyder Construction, Inc" for construction of the
Eagle County Animal Control Center.
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous,
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EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
Mr. Kranke stated they do not plan on doing so. When Fish and Wildlife make their decision they will then
conference with the FS and V A before any work begins, He explained,
Chairman Johnson asked if there will be an agreement.
Mr. Kranke stated they will be involved in a formal process with them and at some time there will be a
signed document.
Chairman Johnson asked who is involved,
Mr, Kranke stated the US Fish and Wildlife, He suspects the DOW will be invited for input.
Commissioner Gates suggested that assuming there is an okay and then they come back with the endangered
species if conditions can be applied at that time,
Mr. Kranke stated they will want to take another look at it and they are prepared for discussion,
Mr. Fritze spoke to an April 14 letter from Mr. Carlson and the discussion ofthe conferencing process and
that the DOW would be a part of it.
Chairman Johnson asked if that resolved staffs concerns,
Mr. Montag stated he would still like the Board to consider some type of wildlife agreement not only on
Lynx but all potential impacts,
Commissioner Gates asked why the County would be the experts. Why not leave it to the experts,
Mr. Montag stated they would like to see an agreement that all of the agencies are comfortable with the
recommendations, He stated there is still a lack of comfort from some of the agencies, He wants it clear that they
are comfortable with the ROD.
Chairman Johnson spoke to the competent evidence needed for approval. He stated as far as the elk, deer
and CAT II there has not been a depletion of those herds after construction, There seems to be more elk but a
decrease in snowshoe hair population.
Jim Mandel asked which agencies are uncomfortable. He spoke to a response from US Fish and Wildlife
and the fact they felt more empowered without an agreement. They were willing to enter into an agreement with
the applicable agencies. They agree there is one agreement, the ROD. He spoke to the letter from Robert H, Kaske
which stated the mitigation agreed to and required, and that suggested by the now, resulting in the mitigation, He
suggested the agency for elk and deer believes its mitigated. He stated he doesn't object to the agreement but if the
agencies don't want to enter into it, how can the Board require that. Mr. Mandel spoke to Condition #5 and the fact
they fully intend to comply with all the laws accordingly,
Commissioner Phillips stated they are being very specific with the request and addressing potential wildlife
and potential habitat but they don't know what that entails.
Mr. Montag stated it would be a statement by the applicable agencies as listed that they are in agreement
with the ROD that the Forest Service has issued.
Chairman Johnson asked what ifthey incorporate all the mitigation as part of their approval which would
allow the Board to give a show cause,
Mr. Montag stated that would empower the County to be in the enforcement mode when it comes to the
conditions or ROD. From a logistical standpoint, it may not be where they want to go.
Chairman Johnson stated the entities would have their authority but a citizen could bring them to the
County,
Mr. Fritze stated that would comply with their process, The permit can be a condition.
Chairman Johnson suggested if they have a condition that clearly states that Tom would meet staff needs,
Mr. Mandel stated it sounds good on the surface, He believes the expertise on the lynx belongs with the
experts, He believes the DOW has the expertise. Without insulting the Board or staff, he is not sure they have the
expertise on wildlife, He suggested staff may not be up to speed, This is a dynamic ongoing process, There will be
other things that evolve as they come forward. Does this Board intend as the mitigation shifts and follow those
shifts,
Chairman Johnson stated they do have the expertise to question if the mitigation is being conducted
appropriately.
Mr. Mandel questioned as the mitigation changes if the Board would be able to change with it. He stated
there are certain other measures that are not black and white, Will this Board second guess the Army Corps,
Chairman Johnson suggested they are adopting what the mitigation is, If it is good enough for the Forest
Service, it will be good enough for the Board,
Commissioner Gates suggested they would hope they would comply with whatever conditions are approved,
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEt:S 387869
president was too. He suggested V A remind the BC Resort Company that it was an agreement made in good faith
and citizens relied on it when they voted on the increase,
Mr, Mandel stated they agree with much of what as said, He spoke to the task force, the development of the
plan, They did participate in such studies and doesn't mean they won't implement.
#6 is removed.
Chairman Johnson spoke to the recommendations ofthe Water Fund and asked how those are dealt with,
Mr, Fritze stated it is at the Board's discreation. It is up to them if they want to consider them or not or if
they need clarification, He stated there was a request for proposed conditions and they were submitted in a timely
manner,
Chairman Johnson suggested they do need to deal with these in case they go forward,
Mr. Mandel asked if they are re-opening the public area, He stated Mr. Zucosky is a member ofthe public.
Chairman Johnson stated if the Board feels they must rebut they will allow that to happen,
Commissioner Gates asked if the response is not sufficient.
Chairman Johnson suggested Mr. Zukowski come to the mic to address any questions, Mr. Allender and the
Forest Service have responded, The only others that did not respond was the DOW,
Mr. Fritze stated they Board is clear they might have questions of the applicant.
Mr. Mandel stated the applicant has formal attendance, There is no opponent. To grant a special standing to
change the rules is a gross mis-conduct. The letters are in the file and can be reviewed, He objects vehemently to
opening public hearing at this time,
Commissioner Gates asked the Board be polled, He stated he is against further public comment.
Commissioner Phillips stated she has taken both the documents submitted and compared that to the
response, She said she did not think there would be further comment.
Chairman Johnson stated the Board will deliberate on the conditions
# 1 - Prohibiting the grading within 100 feet of a stream,
Commissioner Phillips stated all the mitigations have been answered through the Forest Service.
Commissioner Gates believes it goes beyond what was needed but agrees to it.
Jim Fritze explained the conditions will be rewritten for the Board's approval.
Commissioner Phillips believes the conditions listed incorporate these concerns,
Chairman Johnson stated to be able to develop a clear record as to why or why not conditions were
accepted, they need to do this in case it does go to court,
#2 - sewage treatment - Mr, Fritze stated that is a 1041 issue.
Chairman Johnson stated it would cause more environmental harm if a septic system was built there,
#3 - no dredge fill or other disturbance of wetlands, Mr. Fritze believes this has been resolved,
The Board agreed.
#5 - adopt measures imposed by the Corps but not adopted by the Forest Service, Mr, Allender's letter
clarified what the forest service and the Corps came to as far as final record of decision, He believes those have
been resolved in the ROD.
#4 stated to adopt several measures not adopted by the FS. He thinks Mr. Allender's letter and the ROD as
well as the storm water management plan address that recommended condition, Each of the eight items a - h,
#1 voiced a concern with the destruction of habitat for lynx and other habitat,
Chairman Johnson spoke to his concerns and those of the Corps and the DOW regarding this issue, With
Mr. Kranke's testimony today he believes this can be left up to the DOW and the US Fish and Wildlife service to
ensure that happens, He stated the endangered species act will resolve that issue.
The Board agreed,
As far as CAT II destroying elk habitat with the report done by Dr. Aldridge in 1997 which suggested the
habitat in the area was not reduced as a result of CAT II.
The Board agreed,
Jim Fritze suggested the proposed mitigations and conditions are more clearly laid out on page 12, They are
numbered 1 - 7,
Page 13 of the Land and Water Funds response says "require timber hauling through the Town of Vail",
Chairman Johnson suggested this be referred to the Town of Vail and that the cost out weighs the benefits.
It would be disruptive ofthe Towns summer business,
Commissioner Gates stated he would leave that up to the Town of Vail.
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EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
Commissioner Gates suggested the restaurant will remain in the plan but they will have to follow all of the
1041 steps.
The applicant agreed, They do not feel strongly about the date.
#2 is the reduction of the areas, He is not clear on the direction,
Dave Nelson stated the case of Crystal Bay would support that.
Mr. Fritze suggested it was a change in the zoning regs,
#3 the wildlife agreement. In its place the applicant will be required to comply with the requirements and
conditions as found in the ROD,
Chairman Johnson suggested they were incorporating the ROD and the final supplemental.
Commissioner Gates spoke to the listing of species.
Jim Mandel stated a condition that the applicant remain in compliance with all the agencies requirements of
a federal and state level.
A break was taken.
Discussion continued on #3 and compliance with the state and federal conditions,
Mr. Montag suggested they had asked the applicant comply with the ROD and the supplement,
Mr. Fritze suggested as the conferencing goes on, conditions would and might change and should the
conditions be in compliance with some of those.
Commissioner Gates suggested ifthe lynx is going to be listed as of July 1 there would not be construction
for another year.
Loren Kranke, Forest Service stated they understand lynx will be proposed for listing on July 30. They hope
to conclude with conference by July 4. The construction will not commence until after the conferencing, They
would issue a conferencing report. The court settlement wasn't to propose it for listing. The opportunity to impose
it for endangered or threatening issues,
Commissioner Phillips questioned if this has been approved they still might not move forward?
Mr. Kranke suggested not immediately,
Chairman Johnson referred to case law,
Returning to #3,..do we go with a general statement or something more specific referencing the ROD and
the supplemental.
Commissioner Gates suggested they reference the ROD as the backup,
Commissioner Phillips agreed to the specific language,
#4 has to do with the necessary Eagle County permits a - e, It was left as written,
Commissioner Gates stated they have to have them.
Mr. Mandel stated the applicant can live with that if required is defined.
#5 was agreed to,
Commissioner Phillips spoke to the timber hauling through the town of Vail.
Commissioner Gates asked if there should be a reference to the 1986 resolution,
Chairman Johnson stated it is something outside of the applicants control and that Mr. Mandel has stated
they will use their position to remind BC Resorts of their commitment.
No further conditions were proposed,
Commissioner Gates moved to approve ZS-236-86 with the conditions as reviewed and to be presented the
4th of May for adoption,
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion.
In discussion, Commissioner Phillips clarified the Special use permit was approved by a prior Board, there
has been a special federal exclusion and that environmental impacts were the only conditions to be considered.
Chairman Johnson stated as they have gone through this process before, he is not sure what the Federal
Government needs to do, They went through this with Adam's Rib, The process is segmented, They did receive a
lot of comments as it relates to this. He doesn't know how to get a clear decision from the federal government. He
asked the Forest Service take it back to congress so that the local area has more involvement on the front side, The
decision that is being made by this Board today is based on competent evidence submitted by either the applicant or
the appropriate agencies. This Board needs to make sure that their decisions is based on competent evidence, It is a
messy process but they want to be sure they have made the right decision.
Chairman Johnson called for the question on the motion, The vote was declared unanimous,
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
EAGLE, COLORADO
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
FORM 50 HOECKEL'S 387869
Subdivision, a resubdivision of Lot 49 to create two lots, Lot 49 A and Lot 49 B, This plat does contain a duplex
split caveat stating that only one two family residence may be built on the combined area the two lots.
Commissioner Phillips moved to approve final plat file number 5MB-00109, Lot 49, The Homestead, Filing
3, incorporating Staff findings.
Commissioner Gates seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous,
Consent Item D /"'...""*<~
Renee Black stated there was '~SOlUtiOnP. esented in the Consent Calendar, item D, which should have
been pulled and was inadvertently apt\oved. She quested the Board make a motion accordingly,
Commissioner Gates moved to r~y~m D from the Consent Calendar as previously approved.
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous,
Commissioner Phillips moved to adjourn as the Board of County Commissioners and reconvene as the
Local Liquor Licensing Authority.
Commissioner Gates seconded the motion. The vote was declared unanimous,
Eagle County Government
Earlene Roach, Liquor Inspector, presented a Special Events Permit application for Eagle County
Government. She stated this permit is for the Rocky Mountain Oyster Feed, to be held May 2, 1998 from 4:00 p,m,
to midnight. The applicant will be licensing the entire fairgrounds, This application is in order and all fees have
been paid, Staff recommended approval.
Commissioner Gates asked ifthere were any complaints last year,
Ms. Roach responded no,
Chairman Johnson asked what type of staffing they are going to have.
Laurie Asmussen, Eagle County Fair and Rodeo, stated staffing is volunteer, There are about 32 volunteers.
Chairman Johnson asked about control and boundary assurance,
Ms, Asmussen responded they have a security group that will work with the Sheriff s officers,
Chairman Johnson spoke to two areas on the map concerning visibility issue.
Ms, Roach stated those were the applicants notes.
Commissioner Gates asked what they are serving,
Ms, Asmussen stated beer and wine coolers,
Commissioner Gates moved to approve a special events permit for Eagle County Government.
Commissioner Phillips seconded the motion, The vote was declared unanimous,
Gore Range Brewery
Earlene Roach presented a renewal of a Brew Pub License for Gore Range Brewery, LLC, She requested
this matter be tabled as the applicant was not present,
Commissioner Gates moved to table the renewal of a brew pub license for Gore Range Brewery,
Chairman Johnson seconded the motion, Ofthe two voting Commissioners the vote was declared
unanimous. Commissioner Phillips was not present at this time,
Commissioner Gates moved to adjourn as the Local Liquor Licensing Authority and reconvene as the Board
of County Commissioners,
Chairman Johnson seconded the motion, Of the two voting Commissioners the vote was declared
unanImous.
Resolution 98-56, Earth Awareness Week
Ray Merry, Environmental Health Officer, presented Resolution 98-56, declaring week of April 20 through
24, 1998 as Earth Awareness Week in Eagle County,
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